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[MUSIC] Oprah Winfrey: Today, all new, her boyfriend shot her face off. Now, after 13 miracle surgeries, what is it like when you go out in public now? And for the first time, what he has to say from behind bars. Then, there's a baby being born? It's our first baby. Our incredible "Where Are They Now?" follow-ups. The dad who left our viewers gob-smacked--Would you say you do love her more now that she's thin? And it was a million-dollar moment, now a whopper of a surprise. Next. [APPLAUSE] OW: So one of the first things we did after I announced that this show was ending was put together a special "Oprah Show" task force. Their assignment was to dig deep inside our Harpo tape library. Look at it. There it is. That is a lot of work, a lot of shows. And their job was to watch every single show we've ever done. Uh-huh. Over 4500 hours of television. The mission was to find out what happened to some of the 30,000 guests who have sat up here with me over the years. And today we have some incredible "Where are they now?" follow-ups, starting with a woman with a wake-up call. We first met her six years ago. Take a look. OW: The date was May 26, 2005. The show was called "The Woman Who Survived." OW: This is Carolyn today. Audience: Oh. OW: Over the years, we have done more than 120 shows on domestic violence, but no story was more horrific, no lesson more important, no survivor more brave, than Carolyn Thomas. And what did you think or feel when you saw your face for the first time? Carolyn: I didn't even want to look at myself. I felt that no one else would want to look at me either. OW: Carolyn had been in an abusive relationship for eight years. CT: I was in love, and I thought that I could change him. He was verbally abusive. He got very jealous. He was very controlling with what I wear. I was only able to associate with my immediate family. OW: One night the abuse turned deadly. CT: He just kept on ranting and raving and grabbed a gun. We ended up wrestling for the gun back and forth, tussling for it, and he ended up getting it away from me and shooting my mother in the stomach and after that grabbed me around the throat, put the gun to my temple. OW: Carolyn had been shot in the face at point-blank range. CT: When the officer came in the apartment and I grabbed him on the ankle to let him know that I was alive. OW: Her mother was killed, but Carolyn survived--she believes, for a reason. She knew she had to tell her story. Carolyn says she feels like her soul has been put in a cage. How so, Carolyn? CT: I feel like it's been put in a cage because I've lost a lot of things. I've lost my mother, half my face, and a few friends. OW: Here is Carolyn, who has survived as a living example of what survival is. So we will now refer to you from now on as the woman who survived. The woman who survived. CT: Thank you. OW: So that was six years ago since Carolyn was here, and she's back today and proud to show her face. Please welcome Carolyn. [APPLAUSE] OW: Wow. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. Good to see you. CT: Good to see you. OW: Good to see you. Tell me, how many surgeries? CT: Thirteen total, and about seven of those were all major surgeries. OW: Major surgeries. CT: Yes. OW: Yeah. Are you in pain? CT: No, I don't have any pain, and I really didn't have any pain during the surgeries at all. OW: Really? A team of doctors and specialists pushed the limits of reconstructive surgery to help make Carolyn look whole again. Take a look at what she's been through. OW: The monumental task of reconstructing Carolyn's shattered face took two years and nearly a dozen intricate surgeries. This is how she looked before her first operation. CT: Wow. I didn't think anything was possible. I mean, there was, like, 80% gone. There was just an empty space. OW: The bullet obliterated her face--her upper jaw, the roof of her mouth, her nose and eye all gone. In one 10-hour marathon operation, surgeons cut a piece of bone from her leg and shaped it into a new jaw. They rebuilt her eye socket, replaced the roof of her mouth, and took skin from her neck and shaped it into lips. Rebuilding her nose was nearly impossible, so Carolyn wears a prosthetic one. CT: This was the totally finished product right here. Huh. Makes me want to cry. Whoo. Wow. Because if you, if you look at this and then you look at this. And I'm just thankful to all my doctors. I don't think anybody could ever understand what I went through. OW: So, what is it like when you go out in public now? Do people still stare? CT: It's a lot different now when I go out in public. I think that the stares are not, you know, like, "wow" at the scarring and things. They're probably kind of proud of what I'm doing. OW: Is it because, I think, you are proud of what you're doing? CT: Yes. I definitely am proud. OW: And so yeah, because you have a very different attitude now than you did six years ago. CT: Yes, definitely. OW: Yeah. What happened in those six years? CT: I think within those six years, I became more courageous and, you know, having the ability to be able to talk to more people, to be a better advocate, I just think it made me a stronger woman. OW: So you say not only are you more confident, but you believe, as I believe--I believe everything happens for a reason, and what was this reason for you? CT: I think God does things for different reasons, and I think that he knew that I was going to be strong, he knew that I wasn't going to be ashamed of how things turned out, and that I was going to go out and be the best advocate that I could be and, you know, encourage other women to do the same thing. OW: So we received hundreds of e-mails, as you know, from women who were deeply affected by Carolyn's story.

Understandably, most of them wanted to remain anonymous because a lot of them are in situations where they are with controlling men. Here's just one example of how Carolyn helped save a life. Understandably, most of them wanted to remain anonymous because a lot of them are in situations where they are with controlling men. Here's just one example of how Carolyn helped save a life. This is from a viewer in Philadelphia. OW: She wrote, "Dear Oprah, I want to thank you for sharing Carolyn's story on your show. It was the wake-up call," she writes, "that I needed. I was mentally, verbally, and physically abused by my boyfriend for years, but I convinced myself that he really loved me and that if I just waited it out, he would change. And then I heard what Carolyn had to say, and I found myself in tears. I left him that night, and I never looked back. I believe it was fate that I saw Carolyn on TV that day, and I want to thank her for giving me the courage to save myself." I know you've heard that from a lot of people. CT: Yes. I've had one come up to me and say, you know, she left her husband after seeing my story, and that makes me feel really good. OW: You call yourself a great visual aid for women who are in abusive relationships. CT: Yes. OW: Yeah, because would you have believed that this could happen to you? Even though you realized you had all the signs and if you're watching right now, it starts with someone wanting you--first of all, controlling you. CT: Right. OW: Not wanting you to be with your family members and your friends, and most women, as you did, interpret it as "He loves me. He just loves me so much." Yes. The person being jealous and controlling in other ways. And you thought the more he did that, the more he loved you. CT: That's what I thought, but you know, healthy love doesn't have to hurt, and I think it kind of goes back to my childhood, where I noticed my mother being abused, and I think that if my mom and grandmother had sat down and kind of said, "You know, Carolyn, this is not the way a man is supposed to treat a woman and, you know, if he hits you once, he's going to hit you twice," and to get out of that situation, so I think maybe a little bit I probably became a product of my environment a little bit. OW: Having done over 120 shows about this, one of the things I've come to understand is that children don't do what you say. They do what you do. CT: Right. OW: And so your mother telling you--if your mother is in an abusive relationship--and that is true for those of you who are watching right now and you're in an abusive relationship and you're saying to your sons and your daughters-- if you allow some man to mistreat you and then you say to your son, "But this isn't the way you treat a woman," what your sons end up doing is repeating what they know, what they've seen, so your words don't mean as much as your actions do. CT: Right. OW: Coming up, from behind bars, what Carolyn's ex-boyfriend wants to say to her now. We'll be right back. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] OW: We first met Carolyn back in 2005. In a jealous rage, her abusive boyfriend killed her mother and then shot her in the face at point-blank range. CT: I finally took the bandages off and seen for myself what I really looked like, and it made me angry about losing my mom behind a relationship that wasn't worth nothing. How could I even have--how could I associate with a man like that? How could I love a man that didn't love me back, that didn't love me enough to not harm me or mistreat me? And I think that's the hardest thing for me to deal with. I have to deal with that every day I look in the mirror. OW: Over the years, that's been one of the hardest lessons for abused women to learn. It took a bullet to the face for Carolyn to actually finally get it, that if he hits you once, it will happen again, and there's no telling how far it will go. If you recognize yourself in her story, it is no coincidence that you are watching this show today. OW: So Carolyn told us that she's wanted for years to get answers from the man who killed her mother and destroyed her face. Terrence Kelly is serving a life sentence for murder and for attempted murder by shooting Carolyn in the face, and we sent our producer, Bridgette, down to Robertson Correctional Institute in Abilene, Texas, to find out what Terrence has to say for himself. He claims that he unknowingly smoked a cigarette laced with drugs the night of the shooting. Take a look. Bridgette, "Oprah Show" Producer: What do you remember at all from that day in December? TK: Going to the apartment, smoking a Black & Mild that was in the ashtray. There was about a quarter of it left, and after that, it just--that's when everything--from there I really can't remember. Bridgette: So you don't remember shooting Carolyn and her mother? TK: No, ma'am. I loved Ms. Thomas and her mom like a mom. I used to call Ms. Reeves mama, you know? Bridgette: Do you think in that moment that you really wanted to kill her? TK: I didn't know what was happening, and if I did, if I was in my right mindframe, I wouldn't hurt her.

Couldn't nothing make me hurt her like that. No way. Bridgette: Can you tell me in your own words how it feels to see the bullet that you shot cause this damage to her? Couldn't nothing make me hurt her like that. No way. Bridgette: Can you tell me in your own words how it feels to see the bullet that you shot cause this damage to her? TK: It hurts me. Yes, ma'am. It hurts me. Bridgette: Terrence, why did you agree to do the interview with us today? TK: Because I feel like I owe the victim an apology, you know, for what went down, for what happened, so that's the main reason, you know, 'cause like I say, my heart bleeds every day. There's not a day go by that I don't think about it because I really did love Ms. Thompson [sic] and Ms. Reeves, you know. Bridgette: And have you asked God for forgiveness for what happened? TK: Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Bridgette: And do you believe that there's redemption for you? TK: Yeah. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. It hurts me every day. I got a granddaughter that I never touched or spoke with, you know? It hurts me every day. Just a lot I'm missing, you know, and words can't explain it, you know? The feeling, words can't explain it. OW: Is that the first time you've seen him? CT: Yes, since court. OW: Since court. What does it make you feel to see that tape? CT: It kind of makes me feel kind of angry because, you know, if he didn't know what he was doing and he supposedly smoked this Black & Mild that was in an ashtray... OW: What is a Black & Mild? CT: It's a form of a cigar. OW: Mm-hmm. You don't believe that he's sincere there. CT: I don't. No. OW: Mm-hmm. Do you still want to see him in person? CT: Well, we may meet sometime in the future in person, and that's because we're going to be doing, like, a mediation, and a mediation is where we're able only to discuss what happened that night, and I'll be able to ask him a few more questions, but it's not to see him, you know, in a good way. I just still have more things that I want to ask. OW: And what do you most want to know? CT: I just really want to know, why did you do that? Why did you kill my mom? It's just really hard for me to understand that you were so drugged up like you say, and where did you get the cigar, out of what ashtray? I mean, there's just so many questions. OW: Mm-hmm. Is there ever really going to be an answer that will satisfy the question of why did you kill my mother? CT: I don't think it will be. I don't think it will be, and that's something that I'm going to have to live with and deal with for the rest of my life. OW: Mm-hmm, but no matter what, you feel like you'll go on and you're stronger? CT: Yes. I definitely feel like I'm stronger, Oprah. I feel, in a way, I kind of want to thank him because he made me become this strong woman that I am today, you know, being courageous and going out in public and dealing with the situation. OW: Mm-hmm. And, you know, I understand what you mean by you want to thank him--this is what it took for you. CT: Yes. OW: And I also understand that one of the reasons why you're here is that really the message is for every other woman who's in this situation, don't let it take a bullet. CT: Right. Exactly. OW: Don't let it take a bullet. Thank you so much. So if you're in an abusive relationship and you need help, call the National Domestic Violence Hotline or do whatever you need to do, 1-800-799-SAFE, or go to www.thehotline.org. We'll be right back. OW: Coming up, she was the fat one in the family. Kirk: Does it bother me when we're out in public that Jill is overweight? It does. I'll be honest. OW: It's been six years. Find out if her dad backed off. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] OW: Okay. So I'll never forget the title of the show six years ago, "The Fat One in the Family." Jill Roberts struck a nerve with her painful story about her weight. Many people could relate, but what I remember most is the brutal honesty of her father. Take a look. OW: It was May 18, 2005. The show was called "The Fat One in the Family." Twenty-year-old Jill, the youngest of four children, revealed how she's always felt like an outsider because of her weight. Jill: I'm constantly compared to my sister. My sister is a runner, and my dad is like, "Well, why don't you run?" Kirk: I hate to say that she was a fat baby, but I don't know how else to say that. She always has been overweight. OW: Her father Kirk came down the hardest on Jill about her weight. Jill: He's like, "Why in the crap are you eating that? You don't need it. You're fat as it is." Kirk: You already got ham on there. Does it bother me when we're out in public that Jill is overweight? It does. I'll be honest. OW: Kirk had no idea how deeply his words hurt his daughter. Jill: I wanted my dad to accept me my whole life. He treats me differently than he treats every other person in my family. My whole life, he's told me that I'm not pretty and that I'm overweight and that I need to lose weight, and, I mean, he's just never been nice to me. OW: Jill came back on the show in 2006 after having gastric bypass surgery. OW: Not only do you look different, but your energy is different. Jill: I am a different person.

OW: You are a different person. Jill: Absolutely. I'm more outgoing. I'm fun, and I love to be Jill. OW: You love to be Jill. Jill: I do. For the first time, I love to be me. OW: Really? How much did you lose? Jill: I have lost close to 170 pounds. OW: You are a different person. Jill: Absolutely. I'm more outgoing. I'm fun, and I love to be Jill. OW: You love to be Jill. Jill: I do. For the first time, I love to be me. OW: Really? How much did you lose? Jill: I have lost close to 170 pounds. [APPLAUSE] OW: So it's been almost six years, now, since we first met Jill, weighing over 300 pounds, and she's back with her father Kirk and her mother Cay. Welcome, everybody. Hi. Kirk: Hi. Thank you. OW: Yes. Looks like you've lost even more weight. Jill: I have. Yes. I lost another about 30 pounds since I was last on the show. OW: Mm-hmm, and do you feel terrific? Jill: I do. I feel really great. OW: Do you feel great about the relationship now? Jill: Yes. OW: Did the relationship change as you lost the weight? Jill: Oh, yeah. It completely changed. I think it changed how I interact with my dad, because my whole being changed--my confidence, my attitude. I matured a lot. I changed a lot, and I just realized that, I mean, even though my dad phrases things a certain way, I know that what he wanted was for me to be happy and to have the life that I have now. OW: So the perception that the world has just seeing this is that you didn't love her when she was fat but you now love her now that she's thin, and that seems very shallow. Kirk: It does seem shallow. OW: Yes, it does. Kirk: It does. OW: So you explain that to me. Kirk: And I loved her. I loved her so much, but everybody perceived it as that, and that was tough. I knew that she was... OW: Was that our perception, or was that somewhat the truth? Kirk: I think it was somewhat the truth. I think it was both perception and the truth. OW: Mm-hmm, and, Cay, what was your role in all this? What were you thinking when Kirk was being hard on Jill? Cay, Jill's Mother: Oh, it was really hard, you know, as a mother, you always want to make everything all better for your children, and I couldn't make it all better for her, and I always tried my hardest. OW: Would you all have arguments privately about him being so tough on her? Cay: Yes. Yes. OW: So when she said she was going to have gastric bypass surgery, you welcomed that. Kirk: I did. I supported that, that decision. I did because we had tried so many different things. She had tried so many different things, and I truly feel at that point that gastric bypass was a lifesaver because she was morbidly obese. OW: Have you had complications, though, since then, right? Jill: I have. I've had quite a few complications. I got really, really severely sick about two years ago. I wasn't able to eat. In a year, I underwent 12 different surgeries, wasn't able to eat. I had a PICC line through me, and I was on home I.V. therapy. That's the only way that they could give me nourishment. So they came and did that three or four times a week, and it would be an eight- hour thing. OW: Is that why you lost more weight? Jill: Yes. That's the reason. Yeah. That's the reason I lost a lot more weight, is because I haven't been able to eat. OW: And how do you feel about that? Jill: It was really tough. I mean, it was really hard because, even though I had changed my attitude on food, it still hurts not being able to eat when you want to eat, and no matter what I did, I couldn't eat. I kept throwing it up. There was no way for me to keep food down. So that was really hard. OW: Do you feel happier now? Jill: Yes. I am very happy, and I know a lot of people disagree with me, but even if I knew that I would've been sick and all this, I still would've made the decision to have the surgery because my life where I am now, I am so happy and so content, and I have... OW: Because people treat you differently. Jill: Because people treat me differently, and I have an amazing husband which I don't believe I would have had. OW: If you were overweight. Jill: I don't believe I would have, and people just completely treat you differently. OW: Okay. Was it a light bulb moment, being on the show? Kirk: Yes. OW: Tell me how. Kirk: Well, the first show was very difficult, especially when you asked me the question that I didn't want to answer, and... OW: Which question was that? Kirk: The question was, if she didn't lose one more pound, could you accept her, and, in fact, if she gained 10 pounds, could you accept her? OW: Wasn't that a good question? Kirk: That was a great question. Jill: That was a horrible question. Kirk: And I didn't want to answer it. I skirted the question, but I finally answered the question, and that's the one that got me all the hate mail, but honestly, that's how I felt, and I knew that if she was going to lose that weight and exercise and get fit and do some things with herself, that her life would be much easier. Because, I will say to this day, people perceive people visually first.

OW: Mm-hmm. That is the absolute truth. Kirk: They do. OW: Well, I'm glad you're one big, happy family now. Jill: We are. Kirk: We are. OW: That's great. Okay. That's a good follow-up. We'll be right back. Thank you. OW: Mm-hmm. That is the absolute truth. Kirk: They do. OW: Well, I'm glad you're one big, happy family now. Jill: We are. Kirk: We are. OW: That's great. Okay. That's a good follow-up. We'll be right back. Thank you. [APPLAUSE] OW: Coming up, so do you go to bed hungry ever? What one remarkable viewer did after the show, an extraordinary follow-up you need to see. MUSIC MUSIC OW: The year was 1990, and one of our big initiatives on the show then was children in crisis. OW: Every single day around the world, 40,000 children under the age of five die of malnutrition and preventable diseases. Our viewers were especially moved by one young American teenager. Treveles, you've lived in America all your life in Mississippi, in Sugar Ditch? Treveles: I lived in Sugar Ditch ever since I was nine years old. OW: Mm-hmm, but it hasn't been so great for you. Treveles: It's not been great. OW: Mm-hmm. Tell me what life is like for you. Treveles: Well, it was like we were staying next to a ditch where all the waste go through, and when you use the bathroom, we had no mechanical motors to run the water. You had to use the bathroom in the bucket, then throw it out in the ditch. OW: As Treveles Simmons told me about his life, the little hairs on the back of my neck stood up. I knew his simple but powerful story would give voice to millions of children living in poverty. Treveles: It was roaches and rats in the house, and you have to plug your ears up so roaches won't crawl in your ears, and snakes be around the house, and sometime we wouldn't eat all day. OW: So do you go to bed hungry ever? Treveles: Sometimes. OW: Mm-hmm. Do you get depressed about this? Treveles: Sometime I get depressed, and I want to get a job and help my mother, and I ask, and ain't no jobs down south. OW: The harsh conditions Treveles lived in would be enough to crush anyone, but he still had his dreams. So what do you want to do? What's your dream for yourself? Treveles: I want to get out of school and find a job and get enough money and go to college. OW: Mm-hmm. OW: You know, I can sometimes feel when a show is resonating with you all, the audience, but I wasn't always aware of the direct impact, especially 20 years ago, before the Internet, before e-mails and message boards. It was only after my team checked in on Treveles this year that we realized the effect that show had on a viewer from Atlanta named Clayton. Watch this. Clayton: When I saw his face, I saw sadness. Tears came to my eyes. People shouldn't live this way. I just felt compelled to do something for him, and I contacted the producers, and I want to do something for Treveles. I communicated with his mother, told her who I was, and I did the best I could. I'm not a rich person. I'm not a celebrity. I wanted to show him that there are other places outside of his environment. Took him to Six Flags and showed him the different sights of Atlanta. We went to Walt Disney World, and we took a trip up to the nation's capital. I bought him school clothes and supplies, things like that. We spent a couple of hours in the evening times trying to enhance his reading ability. I always told him that's the key to success because he had dreams. OW: Well, we say it all the time. Everybody can do something. Twenty-one years later, Clayton and Treveles still have a strong bond, and they're both here today. Come on out, guys. Come on out. [APPLAUSE] OW: Fantastic. Hi. Nice to see you, Treveles. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. Great to see you. That is so powerful. You know, I always say that each one can teach one. Each one can reach one. You saw that show, and you were moved to do something. It's always put before you for a reason, and so when he reached out to you, what do you think? Treveles: Well, when he reached out to me, that really touched my heart that somebody cared enough for me in order to help me. OW: So Treveles is fulfilling his dream and works in a bank now part-time, and you're going to college. Treveles: Yes, ma'am. OW: Yes. Majoring in business management. Treveles: Yes, ma'am. OW: You're married now? Treveles: Yes, ma'am. Married with two kids. OW: With two children. Are you out of Sugar Ditch? Treveles: Yes, ma'am. Thank god that I am out of Sugar Ditch. OW: I know when I--I remember seeing those tapes. Those, you know, I grew up with roaches. Those were roaches on steroids in your house. Yes. Treveles: They were. OW: He spends time mentoring other underprivileged kids, right? Treveles: Yes, ma'am. I work with troubled youths and tutor them in reading and math and stuff of that nature. OW: Mm-hmm. What was it about what you saw, Clayton? Clayton: Something that just touched me, and being from the south myself, not in those conditions, I almost could relate by seeing others, and I thought I could do something.

OW: Yeah. But growing up in the south, I had a special feeling for what that kind of life could be like. But I was surprised that in 1990, interviewing you, OW: Yeah. But growing up in the south, I had a special feeling for what that kind of life could be like. But I was surprised that in 1990, interviewing you, that there were still people living like that in 1990. Were you surprised? Clayton: Yes. Yes. Yeah. Surely surprised and... OW: Do you recognize the impact that you've had on his life? Clayton: Yes, I did. Yes. Yes. OW: You said, "I know I'm having an impact right now." Really. What do you want to say to him for that? Treveles: I just want to say thank you for reaching out to me, helping me, being a mentor to me, and helping mold me as the man that I am today. Clayton: You're welcome. OW: You're welcome. That's fantastic. [APPLAUSE] OW: Thank you, Treveles and Clayton. That's a great lesson. Anybody can be a Clayton in somebody's life. We'll be right back. Thank you both. [APPLAUSE] OW: Coming up, he was crowned the biggest giver of all. Now he's back with another half-million dollars to give away. OW: So a few years ago, we debuted our first-ever primetime television series, called "The Big Give." It was a pressure-filled, high-stakes reality show based on the idea of giving back. Take a look. OW: Welcome to "The Big Give." In 2008, we launched our primetime series "The Big Give." This is a show designed after my own heart--the biggest giver becomes the biggest winner. Ten contestants set out on a nationwide adventure to out-give each other. Contestant: We are making this miracle happen. Contestant: Unbelievable. Woman: And I thank everybody for everything. OW: Every week, the nail-biting competition got tougher. Contestant: We need to raise enough money to pay off the mortgage. Contestant: The clock is ticking. I just don't think we're going to make it. Contestant: I don't want to do it anymore. OW: Until it was down to the final three. Finally, the big secret I'd been keeping for weeks. Inside one of these envelopes is $1 million. Contestant: What? OW: And two of you will leave with $100,000 each. And the biggest giver--I don't even know, I don't even know--the biggest giver is... Stephen Paletta, Big Give Winner: Whoo. OW: [scream] OW: So our million-dollar winner Stephen Paletta turned his big give into a big opportunity. Welcome, Stephen. Stephen Paletta : Thank you, Oprah. [APPLAUSE] OW: So what'd you do with the money? What'd you do with the money? Part of the deal of winning a million was you had to give half of it away, so who'd you give it to? SP: Well, you know, the amazing thing, Oprah, is you did something so incredible. You actually gave me $500,000 to give away to anybody I want. Most people say you have to give it to this or give it to that, and you said whatever I want. So what I did is I started my own foundation, and I gave it to things that I really cared about. The first is I've been working in Rwanda since 2005. I started the International Education Exchange, and we work in the public school system. We connect kids here in the United States with kids in Rwanda, and literally that money has changed the education in Rwanda. It's been spectacular. OW: So I hear you've come up with an innovative way for others to get that feeling. SP: Exactly. OW: Tell us about it. SP: So what I did instead of going out and spending and buying a boat, buying a car, I said, "I'm not going to go back to my old job. I want to start something new." OW: So you gave up your old job. SP: Gave up my old job. OW: Construction. SP: Construction. That's correct. And I took that $500,000 and I started the company called Giveback. OW: Really? SP: And what I thought I would do is just start to inspire people, and so I'd go around and I'd talk to folks like this about organizations that I knew, thinking that maybe they would support them. You know what happened every time, Oprah? People would come up to me and they'd say, "Stephen, I'm so glad you like Rwanda, but can I tell you what I like?" And so they'd start to tell me about an organization in their hometown or something that they're helping out overseas. And by the way, when you give someone $500,000 to give away on national TV, everybody knows about it. OW: Yes. Everybody wants a little piece. Yeah. SP: So everyone would say, "Steve, since Oprah gave you that money, would you give some of that money to the organization I care about?" And you know, I thought--for a little bit, I did that. Even a half a million dollars runs out pretty quick. But I thought, what if I could do that? What if there's a way to actually put money in people's pocket, do exactly what Oprah Winfrey did for me? Give that money and say, "Give it to whatever you want." And so that's what the idea behind Giveback was, is, how in the world could I possibly, all of these people, put money in their pocket and say, "Go support what you care about, whether that's your local church, whether that's the homeless shelter around the corner, or whether that's some international organization that you really care about. Don't make it about my..." OW: So now that's your business. That's what you do. SP: That's it. Giveback.org is my business. OW: Giveback.org. And so how does it work? SP: Well, I had to figure out how in the world am I going to give people money, and I thought, what if I could set up a web site, giveback.org, allow people to set up their own personal foundation? So you can come in and literally for free, we'll set up your personal foundation, which is really a charitable savings account.

You can put money in anytime you want. It's tax- deductible right then. You can give it away anytime you want. But the most important thing is, every time that you shop, every time that you buy something at your favorite store, You can put money in anytime you want. It's tax- deductible right then. You can give it away anytime you want. But the most important thing is, every time that you shop, every time that you buy something at your favorite store, whether that's Target or Nike or Adidas or any of those, you will earn money back into your foundation. OW: Because they are all signed up with the Giveback.org. SP: That's correct. OW: And so they give a percentage of their sales back to the customer for the customer's foundation. SP: Exactly. OW: What a brilliant idea. Brilliant idea. Giveback. We'll be right back with more in a moment. OW: Coming up, a million-dollar surprise. [APPLAUSE] OW: In 2008, Stephen Paletta took home the million-dollar grand prize in our primetime series "The Big Give" and now Stephen has come up with one of the best ideas we've heard to get everybody started on their own big give, and today, this studio audience is in for a big surprise. Stephen, what are you going to do? SP: Well, Oprah, last time I sat here, you gave me half a million dollars to give away. Well, today, with my good partners of Visa, I am bringing back a half a million dollars to give away. And so today, everyone in this studio audience, if you go to giveback.org and set up your foundation, you will find a card--I believe it's in their seat--that will have a $1,000 gift certificate so that each and every one of you will have $1,000 to give away to the charity of your choice. [APPLAUSE] OW: Yo. Yo. So all you have to do is go to giveback.org and you'll have $1,000 in your account? SP: Basically to go to giveback.org and you set up your foundation. Literally, you put in your e-mail and your password and you've got a foundation set up, and $1,000 will appear in your account, and you give it away when you want and where you want. But even more important, Oprah... [APPLAUSE] OW: That is exciting. Even more important, let me just say, for you at home, for you at home to find out how you could win $1,000, you go to giveback.org. SP: That's correct. OW: That's fantastic. Stephen, I'm so glad you took that and turned it into--don't you love the concept? So this is another question. How do we know when companies are involved with giveback? How do we know that? SP: On our site... OW: Because we want to support companies that are supporting Giveback. SP: Absolutely. When you go to giveback.org, there's a simple place that says "Shop," and it'll literally show you all 450 stores, and let me tell you, these stores are so generous. So do all your shopping through giveback.org, and I will tell you this--you'll have more money to give and you'll change the world. [APPLAUSE] OW: Yeah. But let me just say, when you go to giveback.org, you have to give the money to the charity. When you get the $1,000, it has to go to a charity. You can't give it to your cousin Boo-Boo. Okay? It's not about giving back to your cousin. Thank you so much. A special shout-out to Visa for helping Stephen pull off his big give surprise for our audience. We'll be right back. [APPLAUSE] OW: After 25 years here at Harpo Studios, it's rare that we have a first, but last year, we had a real doozy. Take a look. OW: There's a baby being born? Whose is it? From an audience member? Oh, it's our first baby. [APPLAUSE] Dean: They just put her in the ambulance. Come on. OW: Ohh. Your mom is here. Come on in. I will be checking on you. You don't have to name her Oprah. [APPLAUSE] OW: Lori and one-year-old Justin are here. Come on out. OW: Wow. Hi, Lori, our first and one and only. Hi. During the show. OW: Hi, Justin. Oh. That was an exciting day here at Harpo, but you were actually not due for three months. Lori: No, so it was pretty scary. OW: Pretty scary. What happened when you got to the hospital? Hi, little fella. Lori: Well, we were rushed right in, and within five minutes he was born. It took two pushes. Popped out. Well, not quite that simple, but--they intubated him and gave him an I.V. and brought him to the special care nursery, and I was taken care of. OW: You were here for a while. Lori: I was here for four weeks in Chicago. My home away from home because I'm from Toronto, Canada. [APPLAUSE] OW: They're your fans. Lori: Yeah. OW: Her husband Kyle had to scramble to find child care for their son and get to Chicago. He missed Justin's birth by a few hours, so what was that day like for you? Kyle: It was a normal day at work, but my first reaction when I heard on the phone was just, how do I possibly stop this from happening? OW: Yes. Kyle: Chicago is a different country, and it was just a mad scramble. It was great. OW: How's he doing? Lori: Amazing. Amazing. With all the medical treatments he's had, he has a bit of asthma that was residual from--and he'll hopefully grow out of that, and other than that, he's perfect. He's awesome. He's really good. OW: Well, you were our first. Thank you. Thank you. [APPLAUSE] OW: The 30-day countdown to the end begins April 14 here on "The Oprah Show." We'll be taking more walks down memory lane and catching up with some of our most unforgettable guests, including my favorite guests of all time. And if you haven't seen it yet, everybody's talking about this show. Don't miss "Season 25: Oprah Behind the Scenes" on OWN, Sunday nights at 8:00 Eastern. Bye, everybody. Good weekend. Have a great weekend. [APPLAUSE]

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